Groups shown are: United Auto Workers (UAW); National Rifle Association (NRA); National Education Association (NEA); and American Federation of Labor-Congress of Industrial Organizations (AFL-CIO) |
Interest groups are organizations that works towards a collective goal, usually influencing public policy, or the legislative and executive actions taken by the government on a variety of issues. Examples of interest groups are: the AFL-CIO representing many labor unions, like the American Federation of Government Employees (AFGE), https://www.afge.org, and various other unions; the U.S. Chamber of Commerce represents business interests, roughly speaking these organizations represent labor and capital, respectively. Other groups are organized to promote certain issues, with overlapping economic priorities, ranging from: the NRA, NEA, or even the NAACP, the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, co-founded by W.E.B. DuBois, Ida B. Wells, and others, in 1909. These groups are formal organizations seeking to influence policy through political channels, using methods I will list below. The U.S. has so many interest groups, of differing size and agenda, the true number of interest groups are unknown. A few interest groups seem to have a disproportional influence over the government, to put it mildly, or in Sheldon Wolin's view, have grown so powerful they make up a corporate-state which creates inverted totalitarianism, where economics dominates politics; instead of, politics over economics in the Nazi regime or Soviet Union, thus inverted, or upside down.
The most well-known groups, like the ones mentioned above, are highly organized and well-funded, including unions like the UAW, which are big enough to represent themselves on the national level. The current debate over gun reform speaks to this, as do other issues like taxes, corporate subsidies, and tariffs. In short, interest groups seek to gain leverage over members of Congress, basically by threatening to get them voted out of office, either the implied threat, or an actual threat, if they do not vote their way. Groups like the NAACP have less influence over the federal government as a whole than the NRA, but among African-American members of Congress, or in city governments with a large African American population, they may have a great amount of influence over their representatives, which is generally a good thing for democracy. Within regulatory agencies, part of the executive branch, they are able to "capture" these agencies through appointments, a good example would be the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC), charged with monitoring Wall St. transactions or the Federal Communications Commission (FCC), which is now working to kill "net neutrality," headed by a former lawyer for Verizon.
The "Iron Triangle" |
Finally, well financed interest groups are well known for the use of litigation to overturn unfavorable laws, but go as far as influencing the appointment of judges, not unlike what Al Capone used to do in the state of Illinois. As a result, corporate interests often win out over the majority in democratic politics. The reason for this is the ability to organize, and in the current US system, the ability to make endless legal campaign donations. We will focus on the federal government, but obviously these practices go on at the state and local level, where politicians are purchased for a few hundred dollars in donations. Important Supreme Court cases opened the way for this like Buckley v. Valeo in 1976, and Citizens United v. FEC in 2010. Part of the decision to open up campaign donations in 1976, as David Harvey mentions, is the perception that "democracy had gone too far" on the part of political elites, or the increased demand for "social rights" following the granting of "political rights" in 1965. Despite Madison and Hamilton's attempts to divide the power of the government, the reality is well organized and funded groups are able, with the right amount of money, to breach these barriers with relative ease.
In fact, Madison's theory, known as "pluralism" is still the basis of political science, as shown in the article "The Two Faces of Power." The authors side against the "power elite" theory given by C. Wright Mills, and endorse Robert Dahl's idea of pluralism, which is really just a modern updating of Madison with the same basic idea: how do you control the effects of factions? Madison says a large republic will multiply the amount of factions to the point they all essentially check and balance each other, the idea of overlapping membership is important too, being part of more than one group, Dahl says the same, but does this really occur? Below is a picture of President Eisenhower's Cabinet around the time Dahl's book Who Rules? and "Two Faces of Power" were published (late 1950s-early 1960s):
Eisenhower Cabinet |
The tendency for elitism to develop in politics is very strong. After all, it is Plato who argued for the philosopher-kings to rule over the ancient polis, or city-state, in The Republic. Today's meritocratic elites, highly educated and motivated, are in many ways their modern descendants. The journalist and historian Thomas Frank, author of the best seller What's the Matter with Kansas? (2004) has written on this topic, in his new book Listen, Liberal (2016) as seen in this interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch? That Plato is associated with totalitarian politics, provides an interesting, if disturbing, parallel to today's politics. The early 20th century sociologist, Robert Michels, developed the theory of the "iron law of oligarchy" (oligarchy being a Greek word meaning "rule by the few"). The "law" states, as organizations grow, and become more complex, control of the organization is placed in the hands of those who have superior technical and organizational skills.
In the 1960s, economist Mancur Olson Jr. developed what he called the "logic of collective action." Collective action refers to combined efforts pursuing goals, obviously, political action is collective actions. Olson argues you can separate "diffuse interests," the majority, from "concentrated interests," minority interests. For example, trade policy is made by interest groups lobbying the government for tariffs on imports from foreign countries. This results in higher prices on these goods. A majority of people might be opposed to this, but since the minority interests are more concentrated, they will work harder to lobby the government. The majority interests are diffuse and not organized. This sharply contrasts with Madison's notion of politics, constitutional government, and checks and balances to reduce the influence of the majority. Is it possible that the U.S. Constitution is overly guarded against the will of the majority? If it is true that minority interests often are better organized than the majority and are able to translate that into political policy, then it is very likely to be true. Dahl, in one of his later books from 2002, makes this very argument: the Constitution is not particularly democratic at all, and features strong barriers against majority will, but also argues there is very little we can do about it at this point.
Related to the idea of diffuse v. concentrated interests is what Olson calls the "free-rider problem." A free rider is someone who benefits from a public service, but contributes nothing to maintaining this benefit. Olson argues it is rational to be a free-rider. If rationality is the ability to figure out what is in your best interest, then Olson argues it is rational to free-ride since you get the benefit without doing any work. This leads to a paradox, if everyone free rides than no one will do the work needed to maintain the benefit, for example a clean public park, or well run schools. How, then, can you solve the free-rider problem? Olson argues four solutions:1) keep the size of the group small enough so people get a feeling of friendship or solidarity, that you do not get in a large organization, this however, will limit the effectiveness of the group; 2) create "selective benefits" that are only given if you participate in the group; 3) use coercion to force people to participate; 4) someone takes it upon themselves to provide the cost of the benefit. This explains the often hierarchical structure of many interest groups, hardly run in democratic fashion, whether they are business associations or unions, or other groups. However some critics argue that Olson and Michels are pessimistic and narrowly focused on individual groups. While it might be true that all organizations degenerate over time even as they grow larger, if you take a step back and look at the larger society there are always more groups forming to replace older organizations, often social movements, which we will discuss, become interest groups over time. Of course this is not an easy process and often there is intense struggle and conflict for newer groups to replace older ones. Still it offers one possible solution for the "iron law of oligarchy," even though it has to be a perpetual process.
You also have to consider the different tactics used by groups to influence policy.
- Most common is lobbying which refers to meeting directly with legislators and trying to influence their decisions on voting for laws. Lobbyists are not missionaries trying to convert people, but looking for people who think the same way on most issues. Political parties provide a political identity that interest groups can use to determine who to approach, helping establish connections between interest groups and candidates. Lobbyists have direct access to key policy-makers in government and is usually reserved for the most influential groups.
- Campaign contributions to finance election campaigns, something every politician is looking for.
- Economically well-connected groups can use the threat of moving as a way to influence policy, by effectively leaving or exiting the political arena. Sports teams have used this tactic to influence local governments to vote for tax breaks or other concessions.
- Outside lobbying refers to large groups who write or phone legislators in order to influence their vote. This is seen as more of a "grass-roots" approach to lobbying.
- Voting against a candidate. Many groups opposing tax increases on the rich have used this tactic against Republicans in the House of Representatives, making sure they do not vote for tax increases. Those who do not comply are voted out of office, even in the primary, during the next election.
- Demonstrations and boycotts. This tactic is probably most famous for being used during the early civil movements like the Montgomery Bus Boycott organized by Martin Luther King Jr.
- Litigation is another tactic used by the civil rights movement as in Brown v. Board of Ed. To litigate means to bring your issue to court in the form of a lawsuit.
- Forming coalitions or alliances with other groups.
- Control over information. Many areas for law makers are highly technical (e.g. science and medicine) and depend on interest groups for relevant information.
- Public information campaigns are directed towards voters to motivate them to lobby legislators. The flow of information is from interest groups to the broader public.
- Sometimes violence is used even by formally organized groups, (e.g. employers have been known to use violent means to disperse striking workers) but usually this tactic is associated with social movements.
Before moving on to social movements, there are two main ways to classify interest group politics: pluralist or corporatist
The U.S. system is, again, pluralist. Pluralism refers to large groups acting independently of each other, trying to pursue their own interests. Germany is an example of a corporatist system, with a smaller number of groups: government, business, and labor. In a pluralist system groups like business and labor act as separate, and often antagonistic interests, while in a corporatist system business and labor are brought together in an institutional environment to create cooperation between these groups, characterized by large trade associations with close ties to the government. Economists Peter Hall and David Soskice, in the book Varieties of Capitalism (2001), argue there are six crucial areas that distinguishes a pluralist system (or in their terms a liberal-market economy, LME) from a corporatist system (coordinated market economy, CME).
- Finance: Businesses in pluralist systems finance their activities through capital markets (banks) and are publicly traded on stock exchanges relative to their "market value." In a corporatist systems, business firms are self-financed in cooperation with other firms in the same industry, or rely on financing from the state.
- Industrial relations: pluralist systems make business and labor adversaries. Wage contracts are negotiated between business and labor representatives. In a corporatist system wages are decided by institutions representing business and labor, union officials even serve on corporations' board of directors
- Skill formation: In a pluralist system workers invest in their own skills through education. Employers have little incentive to invest in worker training since workers leave often and find new jobs. Corporatist systems usually have better job training programs, funded by unions and employers, employment at firms is longer.
- Product markets: In a pluralist system businesses have to compete against each other for a share or a piece of a certain market. Marketing and advertising campaigns are common ways of increasing market share. A corporatist system divides markets between firms, that negotiate for a share of the market
- Inter-firm relations: In a pluralist system, technology is shared by firms through paid licensing. A corporatist system allows for technology sharing in a more cooperative setting.
- Firm-employee relations: In a pluralist system corporate managers have much more freedom and power than they do in a corporatist system.
Hall and Soskice argue that in a "liberal-market economy" like the U.S. or a "coordinated market economy" like Germany these six areas will complement and reinforce each other.
Social movements are basically protest groups, like the civil rights movement, or the labor movement, and differ from interest groups mainly by level of organization, although most social movements have some organization, it is usually not as formalized. This has various advantages and disadvantages. Lack of formal organization gives social movements greater flexibility than interest groups, however they often lack the resources of organized interests. We have dealt with many examples of social movements already, there are also studies of the rise and fall of social movements.
Before the 1970s, not much research had been done on protest groups, and what little had been done generally concluded these groups did better the more they organized. However, Frances Fox Piven, in the book Poor People's Movements (1977), co-authored with Richard Clowhard, provides an enormous amount of historical research showing union leaders limited strikes by workers in the 1930s (and other periods), and movements were more successful, the less organized they were, they call this the theory of "disruptive power." It is interesting to compare this book written in the 70s, detailing struggles in the 30s, to conflicts going on today, like the various teachers' strikes. True to what Piven would predict, the unions, in this case the NEA and American Federation of Teachers (AFT), have inhibited, or undermined the efforts of teachers to go on strike. The most high profile of these strikes, so far, like in West Virginia, have all been coordinated through social media, ignoring or defying the union hierarchy. A more radical move would be to call a general strike of all teachers, not just in states, but throughout the nation.
Interest groups might have closer ties to government, but often lack the popular support social movements have. Social movements are not necessarily "good" while interest groups are "bad," although we tend to think of formality negatively and spontaneity as something positive. Social movements can range from anything from the civil rights movement to the rise of fascism in Europe in the 1930s (and now, again). Many social movements use the tactics of non-violent civil disobedience, like bus boycotts, but social movements can use violence as well, like in Charlottesville.
Before the 1970s, not much research had been done on protest groups, and what little had been done generally concluded these groups did better the more they organized. However, Frances Fox Piven, in the book Poor People's Movements (1977), co-authored with Richard Clowhard, provides an enormous amount of historical research showing union leaders limited strikes by workers in the 1930s (and other periods), and movements were more successful, the less organized they were, they call this the theory of "disruptive power." It is interesting to compare this book written in the 70s, detailing struggles in the 30s, to conflicts going on today, like the various teachers' strikes. True to what Piven would predict, the unions, in this case the NEA and American Federation of Teachers (AFT), have inhibited, or undermined the efforts of teachers to go on strike. The most high profile of these strikes, so far, like in West Virginia, have all been coordinated through social media, ignoring or defying the union hierarchy. A more radical move would be to call a general strike of all teachers, not just in states, but throughout the nation.
Flint sit-down strike, 1936 |
Interest groups might have closer ties to government, but often lack the popular support social movements have. Social movements are not necessarily "good" while interest groups are "bad," although we tend to think of formality negatively and spontaneity as something positive. Social movements can range from anything from the civil rights movement to the rise of fascism in Europe in the 1930s (and now, again). Many social movements use the tactics of non-violent civil disobedience, like bus boycotts, but social movements can use violence as well, like in Charlottesville.
Theorists of social movements like Doug McAdam argue there is a structure for how social movements operate, and must take into account three factors:
- The political opportunity structure: what are the options for political action given by the political system? An authoritarian government will have a more restricted structure than a democratic government. Political opportunities are also created outside of national boundaries by global social movements and international organizations
- Mobilization structure: refers to how the movement is able to generate collective action by mobilizing its supporters. The growth of communication technology and social media has greatly increased the ability to mobilize people.
- Framing: refers to how the goals of the movement are articulated. Ideology is important as well because a belief system which ties supporters together and gives them a way of framing or interpreting the goals of the movement.
Other theorists like Tilly, argued that social movements follow a similar pattern of rising and failing, based on Michels' iron law of oligarchy, with some variable paths they can go, inevitably leading to decline:
There is a logic to social movements, bringing up the same problems of collective action, namely the free-rider problem.
Another approach to the logic of collective actions is given by Albert Hirschman, in the book Exit, Voice, and Loyalty (1970), who argues there are three primary responses from a group or individual to a declining institution. Hirschman developed his analysis originally by looking at the responses of consumers to businesses but then argues this model can be used for politics as well. The most common response of a consumer to a product they do not like anymore, is to exit, meaning to take their business elsewhere, but in a political sense this can be done as well, for example sports teams which threaten to leave a city, or even people threatening to leave a country (e.g. various celebrities vowing to move out of the country—of course no one ever leaves). However, the idea of threatening to leave, or exit leads to the second response, voice, to express your discontent with the institution and desire to change or reform it. So when confronted by a situation one does not like, one can either exit the situation, or voice their discontent and try to change the situation. What then determines the influence of voice? There are many factors involved like resources and connections, but also the threat of exit has to be considered as well. Simply put, if I am threatening to leave you but you do not take this threat seriously then you are less likely to give in to my threat, however if you do believe I might actually leave you might be more willing to make concessions. For example, if an employer feels that a union's threat to strike (exit) is credible, it is more likely to give in to demands. Counter-culture groups that refuse to participate in mainstream society is also a kind of "exit" tactic. Finally, there is loyalty, which means you do nothing and wait for things to change. The level of loyalty influences the threat of exit. If I am loyal, I am less likely to leave. Many people exited the Democratic Party by not voting for Hillary Clinton in 2016 and are criticized for doing so, on the other hand, being loyal lessens the chance that elites will change losing strategies and policies. Hirschman's goal was then to specify in real situations the values of exit, voice, and loyalty, how likely groups would use these responses in situations. Hirschman's logic like Olson's can be used for both interest groups and social movements.
To sum up, the goals of interest groups and social movements can be very similar, as are the problems that limit their effectiveness.The tactics chosen by interest groups and social movements are related to their level of organization and ability to mobilize people. Many social movements, as they become more formalized over time, become more like interest groups (or in some case change into political parties). In many ways, the more successful a social movement, the more it risks losing what makes it effective.
I enjoyed and learned from this class. Thank you and it was nice meeting you as well.
ReplyDeletePleasure meeting you as well. After taking your course, I have a better understanding in areas of politics that was not as clear before. Thank you. Have a great holiday and prosperous New Year!
ReplyDeleteThank YOU professor. It was a pleasure to take this class with you. Politics wants that boring this time. :) I can honestly say that this class was well needed. I learned so many things about congress, the constitution, power etc that helped me to have a better understanding of society today. Thanks again!!
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There is a logic to social movements, which brings up the same problems of collective action, namely the free-rider problem. People have an incentive to free-ride as well, if civil rights legislation is passed it will benefit all minority groups affected, but there is still a tendency not to contribute assistance and to allow someone else to do the work of providing this benefit.
ReplyDeleteAns. when reading this passage this reminds me of the welfare system. many do believe this free it is for me. On the contrary it is deemed to assist families for a short amount of time in order to become a productive member in society. today the 21st century has been deemed a free for all and we can't seem to become a balance within all members of their societal category. this dictates that the rich and powerful with in not only the political, yet also the NRA. it is their best interest not to allow minorities speak for social justice and equality. such humble and god fearing men and women who used peace in order to awaken the mindset of those less fortunate, slaves, women, children, disabled and the human race. Some countries take into account the respect and justice to allow them the rights and freedom to perform in a way they are not fearful to speak. Third world countries use tactics in order to control contain and destroy the less fortunate.
Yes we do live in a society which can reduce their hold on humans that are less fortunate and can contribute to society for the betterment of the entire nation.
they seem to degrade and stop benefits due to the past lessons of those taking advantage of a system that grants assistance and in order to move forward they must payback of what they have received . today the system has been restructured and what price does it take for the ones who really need it in order to move forward, pay the ultimate price of being stripped of the most essential of
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ReplyDeletePluralism is the system we have in the U.S. Pluralism refers to the large number of independent groups which act independently of each other and try to pursue their own interests, as opposed to a corporatist system which usually has a smaller number of groups. In a pluralist system groups like business and labor act as separate, and often antagonistic interests, while in a corporatist system business and labor are brought together in an institutional environment which seeks to create cooperation between these groups and is characterized by large trade associations with close ties to the government that is lacking in a pluralist system. Economists Peter Hall and David Soskice argue there are six crucial areas that distinguishes a pluralist system (or in their terms a liberal-market economy LME) from a corporatist system (coordinated market economy CME). [Note their analysis is mostly concerned with economic structure].
From an academic viewpoint pluralism can be understood as the outcome of competition and specialization in the search for new ideas that can deal with imperfections of the real world. From a policy point of view a diversity of view is also desirable as it helps to spread the risk of large mistakes in policy choices. However, the present-day teaching practices and textbooks are by and large not well suited to deal with a pluralist approach.
Although I think pluralism would overall benefit the American society as a whole, there are also disadvantages to this philosophy. This belief in assimilation implements the idea that it is possible for their to be an equal chance for everyone, regardless of race and ethnicity, when there is little support for this notion. This is due to pluralism maintaining the belief that hinders of equality are nonexistant, and also that the ones that should assimilate are the minorities, and not the majority. Perhaps if the majority assimilitated to the immigrants’ ethnic values, or, better yet, there was a compromise between immigrants and natives, the notion for equality and pluralism in the United States would become a more realistic, achievable goal.
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ReplyDeleteIt got my attention the “tactic” that Osson use during the article.. specially in regards to social movement. The tactic is: Forming coalitions or alliances with other groups, during my career i was able to organize a coaliton called Cafe Latino. It started with 2 agencies getting together to plan community activities that would help people with social problems and achieve no goals. Our goal was to find resources to help no income families. We were able to get banks insurance companies, health department to get involved and donate Their time and their incentives. We had riad blocks in the way, such as members of some communities refusing to host events for us because we were Latinos even though the services were for everyone. We had to write a letter to the city in order to get permission to do a small health fair. It involves getting people in politics to help and get us permission to do such events twice a year. By forming at coalition I was able to communicate with more than 15 agencies in the city and have them commit for more than 5 years of volunteer services and now networking one and other, joining forces and continuing services with the city’s permision, today Cafe Latino Coalition is on its 6th year stronger and with more than 20 participant agencies. I believe that when a group of people put their time, ideas and efforts together, a lot could be accomplished.
ReplyDeleteThis topic is very interesting because it relates how organizations and citizens seek for their interest. I think that society is composed of group interest seeking their own goals and benefits. Each organization seeks to get benefit from citizens, and citizens also seek to have a better life.
ReplyDeleteThis topic is very interesting because it relates how organizations and citizens seek for their interest. I think that society is composed of group interest seeking their own goals and benefits. Each organization seeks to get benefit from citizens, and citizens also seek to have a better life.
ReplyDeleteI found this reading interesting. Most highly organized groups are the ones that have the least intention to favor the people interests. For example, one of the groups mentioned was “NRA” which is one of the most organized group with more controversies in this country. We’ve had many horrific mass shootings in the last couple of years. This organization has been working with the government to regulate the selling of gums, however, both entity has failed the people of this Country in making sure that whoever purchases a gum is put into a severe background check to determine if that person should bear an arm. On the other hand, I believe we have a “free-rider problem” in the US as Olson called it. We have too many people, mostly not illegal immigrants, who benefit from public services. And I see mostly not illegal immigrants because an illegal immigrant cannot have or apply for any public service hand out. The major problem with free-rider is tax evasion due to the lack of monitoring and enforcement.
ReplyDeleteThank you professor. I really enjoyed the challenge of learning something new. Your class has helped me understand the basics of politics.
ReplyDeleteThank you professor for such an informative session. I came into this course not knowing much about politics, yet I am learning with more knowledge than what I started with. In this lecture I learn that Interest groups all form to make policy related appeals to government. It is these groups that form to provide information, shape policies by mobilizing voters, put direct pressure on elected officials, especially when they are not doing what they campaigned about. They help congress write bills to become laws and they almost always have a membership.
ReplyDeleteSure anyone can great groups, but an interest group works with the government to get a job done. One must not get an interest group confused with being a pollical party because they are deeply rooted in government, they just assist with providing information and deals with some monetary aspects of a job.
This course provides a lot of information that will last a good while. I can now ask questions and even watch the news with some kind of understanding. Thank you again for lending addendum to politics even though this is just the gist of it.
Now I have a better understanding on how interest groups can be very influential when it comes to "backing" a candidate for a specific political position. It is this influence that becomes a hinderance in our political system because now we have honest people who want to create and affect positive change from within our system but don't have the financial means for mounting an effective campaign, especially with the approval of Citizens United, making campaigns more about who has the bigger wallet wins. So what happens...interest groups will approach this person who needs financial assistance and offer unlimited resources including endorsements from other politicians who are tied with these groups and now when they are elected, they owe a "favor" to the interest group. This type of influence is wrong and needs to be removed from our "playbook" when it comes to running a fair political campaign.
ReplyDeleteThis article was very interesting I didn't know that interest groups had that much power and influence over American politics.
ReplyDelete"economist Mancur Olson Jr. developed what he called the "logic of collective action."..he "law" states, as organizations grow, and become more complex, control of the organization is placed in the hands of those who have superior technical and organizational skills."
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